rebelrider.mike
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I've had this idea kicking around in my head for a while to build a safer place to do electrical tinkering. I have an autotransformer, and I should be able to make an isolation transformer pretty easily. I also found this old Digi-designer breadboard that doesn't work.
I searched around a bit to make sure I wasn't destroying a piece of history. Seems these can still be purchased used around the internet. I've been looking for a safer way to make temporary circuits for both AC and DC things. Here is a picture of what I'm thinking:
This is not to scale, and I don't really know where all the components will go, or if they'll even fit. I'm pretty sure the isolation transformer would have to go before the autotransformer. As far as what comes after the receptacle. I've heard that changing the input voltage on an isolation transformer is bad for it. I'm also planning on having a 250W incandescent bulb as a current limiter. I'm not sure where that should go, but I'm thinking between the two transformers so the voltage won't drop after the autotransformer is set. Or maybe it will anyway?
I'm not sure about grounding (to the Earth) either. The general consensus seems to be that grounding the output of the isolation transformer defeats the isolation part. I've also read that grounding the output is necessary to comply with safety requirements. I get the feeling that this might be a "can of worms" thing. I'm wondering if another current limiter on the ground would be a good compromise? I haven't seen anyone else doing this though, and I'm still a noob at some of this theory, so this might be a dumb idea for reasons I'm not aware of.
I read that in some industrial settings, instead of a direct path to ground which could shut off some big machine, causing a hazardous situation, they instead use a ground fault indicator to let technicians know that there is a problem. So the idea is not entirely unprecedented. It looks like I'll have a GFCI protected circuit to plug into at my workstation, but I'm not sure how much damage could occur by the time the GFCI would react to a ground fault.
Anyway, I'm also trying to decide how to switch the thing on. Specifically, I was thinking of using an on-off-on switch so only the AC or DC would be powered at a time. I don't see needing to use the AC meter while working with DC stuff, but I do see myself wanting a DC meter while working with AC stuff. A lot of the times that I use AC, I'm testing transformers, and rectifiers to make sure they're doing what I want. Also, the AC to DC power supply is going to expect a small range of voltages, and I'm not sure if it would be damaged by very low voltage from the autotransformer or if it would just not work. I can always use multimeters if I can't make integrated meters work or fit.
Well I took the box apart and saved as many of the components as I could.
I'll definitely re-use the power cable, fuse holder, neon lamp, breadboard, switches, LEDs, connectors, and wires. I also tested out the transformer, rectifier, and capacitor. They're all good.
There are also a ton of transistors, and I have no idea as to what they do. I'll save them in case I figure out how to use them someday. The top panel will have to be replaced. All the connector pins are exposed metal, and I don't want that on the new setup. Especially the AC side. I'll have to come up with something different. Perhaps a sheet of plastic.
One thought about current meters: A permanently installed one with a CT instead of a shunt, could have the wire wrapped through the CT several times, making a much more sensitive meter. Couldn't do that with a multimeter. I'd have to be sure to label it appropriately.
I searched around a bit to make sure I wasn't destroying a piece of history. Seems these can still be purchased used around the internet. I've been looking for a safer way to make temporary circuits for both AC and DC things. Here is a picture of what I'm thinking:
This is not to scale, and I don't really know where all the components will go, or if they'll even fit. I'm pretty sure the isolation transformer would have to go before the autotransformer. As far as what comes after the receptacle. I've heard that changing the input voltage on an isolation transformer is bad for it. I'm also planning on having a 250W incandescent bulb as a current limiter. I'm not sure where that should go, but I'm thinking between the two transformers so the voltage won't drop after the autotransformer is set. Or maybe it will anyway?
I'm not sure about grounding (to the Earth) either. The general consensus seems to be that grounding the output of the isolation transformer defeats the isolation part. I've also read that grounding the output is necessary to comply with safety requirements. I get the feeling that this might be a "can of worms" thing. I'm wondering if another current limiter on the ground would be a good compromise? I haven't seen anyone else doing this though, and I'm still a noob at some of this theory, so this might be a dumb idea for reasons I'm not aware of.
I read that in some industrial settings, instead of a direct path to ground which could shut off some big machine, causing a hazardous situation, they instead use a ground fault indicator to let technicians know that there is a problem. So the idea is not entirely unprecedented. It looks like I'll have a GFCI protected circuit to plug into at my workstation, but I'm not sure how much damage could occur by the time the GFCI would react to a ground fault.
Anyway, I'm also trying to decide how to switch the thing on. Specifically, I was thinking of using an on-off-on switch so only the AC or DC would be powered at a time. I don't see needing to use the AC meter while working with DC stuff, but I do see myself wanting a DC meter while working with AC stuff. A lot of the times that I use AC, I'm testing transformers, and rectifiers to make sure they're doing what I want. Also, the AC to DC power supply is going to expect a small range of voltages, and I'm not sure if it would be damaged by very low voltage from the autotransformer or if it would just not work. I can always use multimeters if I can't make integrated meters work or fit.
Well I took the box apart and saved as many of the components as I could.
I'll definitely re-use the power cable, fuse holder, neon lamp, breadboard, switches, LEDs, connectors, and wires. I also tested out the transformer, rectifier, and capacitor. They're all good.
There are also a ton of transistors, and I have no idea as to what they do. I'll save them in case I figure out how to use them someday. The top panel will have to be replaced. All the connector pins are exposed metal, and I don't want that on the new setup. Especially the AC side. I'll have to come up with something different. Perhaps a sheet of plastic.
One thought about current meters: A permanently installed one with a CT instead of a shunt, could have the wire wrapped through the CT several times, making a much more sensitive meter. Couldn't do that with a multimeter. I'd have to be sure to label it appropriately.